Re: Sound cards and unsound thoughts

From: peterson_at_d...
Date: 2001-05-16 01:47:36


--- In buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com, Rob Kall <smile_at_compuserve.com> wrote:
> Message text written by INTERNET:buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com
> >Probably 95% of what people do with EEG biofeedback at present is
at
> freqs above 5Hz, although it would be nice if one could just
stretch it
> down to 4Hz and thereby cover the traditonal Theta band.<<
>
>
> That's incorrect. Most people are working with Theta inhibition if
they are
> working with ADD or squash protocols (and the slower wave delta
with the
> squash protocols).
> Theta filters usually have a gradual cut-off. And some people say
theta
> starts at 3 Hz.
>
Of course it would be better to have access to everything from 0.5Hz
up, and delta and theta inhibition are good things to do in treating
ADD. But isn't most theta activity actually at or above 5 Hz? Do
you think there would be no Tx effect for suppressing, say, 5-11Hz
and reinforcing 12-16 (or whatever)? Lots of people have been
successfully treated with no attention to delta whatever.

> But irregardless, I'd be surprised if our intrepid programmers
can't find a
> way to get around the low frequency limitations. I think it's a
great idea
> to make this technology as affordable as possible to as many people
as
> possible.
>
Good--I'd really rather not settle for a 5Hz floor, but was trying to
suggest that even trhis limitation would not render the device
worthless.

> >>And now another thought: It seems to me that we are not only on
the
> verge of providing cheap EEG biofeedback devices, but also have the
> essential features in hand to produce cheap EMG, EKG (as in heart
rate
> variability), electrodermal, and maybe some other types of
biofeedback as
> well. Putting this entire range of equipment out into
> public access could revolutionize the capacity of humans to self-
regulate.
> <
>
> Absolutely!! And actually, if you are creating a piece of freeware
that
> taps the capabilities of the soundcard, you may find there are a
lot of
> other applications as well.
>
How about something like a Budzynski Twilight Learner? I always
wanted to play with one but couldn't imagine spending $3000 or more
to buy it. BTW--any idea how many of these things Tom B. has sold
over the years? They've been around in one or another version since
the late '70s or so, I think. Maybe even early '70s.
>
> Rob Kall
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