From: frans smith (f.smith_at_c...)
Date: 2001-06-08 10:53:02
Hi Moritz,
I just came home to pick up some things, i'm on holly-day.
i noticed your e-mail.
Did you read the Hal-4 manual ???
Did you check electronics now magazine dec/96 ??
Hal-4. The hal-4 EEG (build or kit) is not sold anny-more.
Lovass Laszlo gave me the information (pcb/manual). At the moment i
am not realy in electronics due to illness, so i did not yet build the
hal-4.
Also i became more interested in buildcheapeeg. I dont know if you know
the hal-4 yourself, but to me it still is a project wich i must do.
Sinds my illness made it (for at the moment) impossible to build, an also
my lab is far from complete, i needed to buy (in usa) the CEO (one channel
waverider). Also i asked Joerg for help (afther holly-day).
(i wish i could be of more benefit to buildcheapeeg, but whe will see....)
1. The HAL-4 manual: * Hal-4 is presented as an engineering example of
design techniques......
* Hal-4 is NOT a MEDICALLY approved
device.......
2. In the dec/96 issue from electronics now magazine, there is an
artikel/design of a biofeedback device.
I don't know what kind, eeg/gsr/emg. But you can order a "back issue"
$ 5.00 exl.shipping).
contact clagg_at_g... clagg.inc. PO BOX 12162 Hauppauge NY 11788
(maria menichette)
* I did not order the magazine, so i cannot mail you information.
I don't know what kind of "disclaimer" they make, (if they do) , but
perhaps they could help...
Perhaps other members in the usa can buy the dec/96 issue, because they
don't have to pay so much
for the shipping. also they then could mail a copy to our group.
perhaps there are american members who know the artikel.
* FILE= Hal-4 manual pdf.
Regards
Frans smith
Netherlands.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moritz v. Buttlar" <info_at_baltic-microsolutions.de>
To: <buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [buildcheapeeg] Re: Liability issues, etc.
>
> Hi !
>
> If we say our device is a biofeedback device for improving concentration
(not
> for curing diseases) then it isnīt a medical device (at least in Germany,
if I
> interpret the law on medical devices right). So we could say our device is
for
> ordinary people who want to improve their concentration and meditation
skills.
> Maybe there are still product liability issues, but it would at least
spare us
> all the problems associated with special certification needed for medical
> equipment.
>
> Maybe somebody could check on all the other biofeedback equipment: what
kind of
> certification do they claim for their devices ? Do they call it a medical
device
> and if not how do they call it ?
>
> Thatīs also the reason why I didnīt want to call it openly an EEG device.
This
> name could confuse people to use our device like an EEG and use it for
> declaring somebody braindead (in the worst case). If we call it EEG, we
canīt
> say itīs not a medical device and it doesnīt need certification. There are
also
> lots of rules especially about medical measurement devices regarding
> calibration and so on. To avoid confusion about the goal our device was
> designed for, we should maybe not use the term EEG.
>
> I like the idea of forming some kind of NGO very much.
>
> Moritz
>
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