From: Rob Sacks (editor_at_realization.org)
Date: 2001-08-10 11:41:14
Hi Sky,
You a pilot by any chance?
Right at the top let me mention that you'll
probably get a much more complete answer to
this question on some other lists -- the psyphi
list comes to mind.
Many scientific papers have been published on
EEG in experienced meditators while they are
meditating. I can't recall any of the papers
actually saying "subject 9 was enlightened"
but occasionally they do say things like "subject
9 was regarded by his peers as having reached
the highest stage..."
EEG differences have been found between
meditators and non-meditators. Differences
have also been found between practitioners of
classical Yoga meditation and Zen
meditation. The latter difference was the subject
of quite a bit of research and it involves something
called "alpha blocking."
Oh wait -- before I get to the scientific papers,
there is C. Maxwell Cade, the psychologist who
invented the Mind Mirror, the NFB machine
which is now emulated by practically every
NFB program in existence. His book "The
Awakened Mind" goes into detail about states
of enlightenment (he numbers them from 5 to
8) and about the corresponding EEGs. Cade's
book is out of print but you can easily find a
copy on the website of Advanced Book
Exchange (I buy a lot of used books, I've found
that exchange to be best because it seems to be
the biggest and the vendors don't seem to pass
along a higher fee to you for using it).
C. Maxwell Cade has a sort of protege, Anna
Wise, who wrote a book called "The High
Performance Mind." I think it has some similar
info but can't find my copy at the moment to check.
Back to the papers. I imagine you can find them
pretty easily in a university library but if you want
to buy them, some of are available in three anthologies
that I know of. Unfortunately all out of print but
you can get them pretty easily on the Web:
"Altered States" by Charles T. Tart, Harper
Collins. Last time I checked the author's website
he had some new copies for sale. There are at
least two papers on this subject in this book.
"Meditation: Classic and Contemporary Perspectives"
edited by Deane H. Shapiro, Jr. and Rober N. Walsh.
There are seven papers on the subject in this book.
There's a review of this book on my website at
http://www.realization.org/page/doc0/doc0082.htm.
There's also a big anthology of papers on
feedback published by Aldine in 1984 (I think
1984) that has papers on this subject but I loaned
it to a friend so I'm not sure.
Regards,
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "SKYFLYER" <skyflyer_at_m...>
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [buildcheapeeg] The cheapest biofeedback device
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know where to find info about brainwave patterns from
> enlightened people?
> Is it different from normal people? If different, then we could find the
> right biofeedback practice to achieve that state. If EEG can not find the
> difference, what can?
>
> Skyflyer
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