Re: TinyEEG - Input grounding

From: sleeper75se (sleeper75se_at_yahoo.se)
Date: 2002-02-01 01:46:27


--- In buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com, "Jim Meissner" <jpmeissner_at_mindspring.com> wrote:

>The RF from the radio station and equipment switching glitches are
> not attenuated. The output impedance of the op amp is not low
> enough at these frequencies. In your case you even have a 220 ohm
> resistor in series to make matters even worse. The shields would
> actually drive noise into your groundplane under the input
> resistors and right into the input stage.

Actually the ground-plane under the resistors is connected to the
shield, not ground. On both sides. Bad idea?

> I am not impressed with simulations done on a computer.
> The real world does not care what you simulated.

Actually, I haven't simulated the shield driver. It's just touch and
go. :-)

Ok, how about this solution: The 100pF capacitors connect to the
shield instead. Then the shield driver's primary job would be to keep
LF-noise (such as 50/60Hz hum) out, while the caps take care of the
HF.

> If I were to use your board, and I certainly want to, I would first
> rip out all the driven shield components and tie J100 pin 3 to
> ground. C100 and C101 are already on ground. The rest looks good.
> (BTW I would not use the filter section either)

I could design a layout without shield driver and filter if you
like...? It is not much work, I'll just rip out whatever is not
needed.

>
> Could you make these little input boards first and test them? That
is by far the most important step.
> After that everything is much less critical.

I'm on it.

--- In buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com, "Jim Meissner" <jpmeissner_at_mindspring.com> wrote:
> I looked at the A/D converter section and I think it looks good
> enough the way it is to build and test.
>
> Full speed ahead. The testing will tell the story.

I just got the order confirmation from Digikey. It really is full
speed ahead. They obviously didn't notice that I wanted FedEx
International Economy, they ship it with FedEx International Priority
(2 days) instead. Shipping is *only* 48 bucks (notice the sarcasm).
Thing is, my thesis is due in a week, so I'll have to slow down the
EEG project for a while...ho hum.

Regards,

Andreas



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