From: Rob Sacks (editor_at_realization.org)
Date: 2001-04-30 05:21:49
Hi Jiva (by the way, is that Sanskrit, as in
jivanmukti?),
> Uh ... doesn't that sound a bit odd to you?
Well, it suggests to me that the business of selling
the kits means so little to them that it's not worth
the trouble of making new Gerber files (or whatever
they actually give to the fabrication house, I don't
know anything about that stuff).
This doesn't surprise me. I'd guess they sell a
couple dozen kits a year at most. If they make
$25 on each one, what's the point? It's more trouble
than it's worth.
However, if somebody comes along with a far
superior kit that they can sell at the same price,
and somebody is going to market that kit anyway
(because it will be sold in other forms), then the
new kit might be more appealing to them than the
old one.
I've worked with the HAL (adapted my program
to run with it) and it's very primitive. I believe
it was designed in 1985. Tom Collura (designer
of the BrainMaster) generously says on one of
his two BrainMaster websites that the HAL is
competitive with the BrainMaster in certain ways,
but I think he's leaning way over to be nice.
> That said ... I guess it can't hurt to ask.
Can't hurt, and it's a lot more accurate than all
this speculation! :)
By the way, isn't this up to Joerg? Or has he
officially given these rights to the public?
Regards,
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: <jiva_at_humboldt1.com>
To: <buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:25 PM
Subject: [buildcheapeeg] Re: Opportunity for kit manufacture
> --- In buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com, "Rob Sacks" <editor_at_realization.org> wrote:
>
> > I just noticed that Creative Control Concepts,
> > the company that manufactures and sells the
> > HAL-4 EEG kit, has stopped doing so because
> > it lost the circuit board diagram.
>
> Uh ... doesn't that sound a bit odd to you?
> Especially when folks are doing everything they
> can to pass images of the board around, etc.
> I'd say there must be or have been other issues
> here.
>
> > According to their website:
> >
> > "Production of the HAL-4 has been suspended
> > indefinitely. Due to the inadvertent loss of the PCB
> > design file, we are unable to produce anymore
> > HAL-4 kits due to a lack of circuit boards. At this
> > time, we do not have the resources to design a new
> > one as we concentrate on our core home automation
> > business. We may at some point in the future design
> > a new board and resume sales of this popular kit."
> >
> > It occurs to me that this company might jump at
> > the opportunity to replace their old HAL kit with
> > a new kit based on Joerg's design, which is far
> > superior to the antiquated HAL. (Joerg's design
> > is also superior to the BrainMaster, in my
> > opinion.)
> >
>
> the HAL-4 KIT was $279.
>
> That said ... I guess it can't hurt to ask.
>
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