Re: [buildcheapeeg] Lucid Dreaming

From: Dave (dfisher_at_pophost.com)
Date: 2002-02-28 02:47:42


On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:42:21 -0500, Jim Meissner wrote:

>Dear Dave:
>
>I have studied the EEG recordings of Robert Monroe with a
>fine toothed comb and could not find anything unusual or
>remarkable. His opinion about EEG was that you are only
>measuring the smoke.

That was my sense of it also, which is why I have not been fanatically
motivated to hook myself up to catch my brainwaves while projecting. A few
years ago I was obsessed with verifying these experiences using scientific
methods, but that has become less important to me.

>I live right next to the Monroe Institute and know most of the
>people who work there or have worked there. I have no relationship
>with the Institute itself. If there is anything you want to know I
>may be able to find out.

That's right! Thanks. Gosh; you are so close to OBE heaven. :) I've been to
a couple of their retreats (talk about expensive!). I think of the Monroe
Institute as a kind of Spiritual B&B. Extremely nice accomodations for both
the physical *and* non-physical body. Although, ironically, I was not able to
project at either one.

>Helen Warring worked for the Institute for 18 years and has
>all the tapes, etc. She purchased my Synchronizer 4 years
>ago and uses it daily. She does absent healings and travels
>and does energy work. I do not understand all she does with
>it but you might want to talk to her. She can do things now
>that the tapes never did. Many people have used it to get to
>the body asleep mind awake state that is difficult for most
>people to achieve.

I know; there have been some people that are profoundly effected by the tapes.
While they put me in a very relaxed state, I do not experience the focus levels
as some others do. This is one of the reasons I want to explore the world of
biofeedback, because our experiences of these kinds of sessions are so varied,
ranging from the profound to the "non-experience experience" as coined at
Monroe.

Then you have someone like Helen who was able to move far beyond what the tapes
could ever do for her with your Synchronizer, or me with the simple black box
of the Nova Pro. I am thinking -- hoping -- that by using biofeedback
modalities with a rich soundscape environment, that it will be possible to
identify what works, and does not work, for differing people.

>I have to run for now and I will tell you more later. So just
>a quick comment. I used to have scary dreams before I
>designed the Synchronizer. More on that subject later.
>My dreams are now very concrete and logical and I might
>go so far as to call them somewhat lucid. Many times I
>wake up and realize I have been talking to someone or lecturing
>to a group. What is strange is that I will make the statement
>to myself saying "That is exactly what I would have said if I had
>been awake". Many times I am explaining some concept that
>I am working on. I cannot recall who I was talking to though.

It sounds like the tenor of your dreams have evened out with the use of the
Synchronizer. Have you also found this to be true during waking periods? It
may be that there is not a very large discontinuity between the way you
experience the "you" during the day and the "you" during the night. And I am
sure that, in the least, you are relieved to say 'good-bye' to the disturbing
dreams!

Dave.



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