Re: [buildcheapeeg] Re: some issues

From: frans smith (f.smith_at_c...)
Date: 2001-06-09 08:29:27


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Tom Collura is onthe memebers list, see his CV
could he give some advice ?
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From: frans smith=20
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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [buildcheapeeg] Re: some issues

I don't know if i'm correct, but to me it seems that this project
has a history. that is, the brainmaster project. it was don before,
so there are people on the list who should know.
but on the other hand, i thinks most people on the list (like me)
want to have a working device to work whit, or to build software.
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From: jiva_at_humboldt1.com=20
To: buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com=20
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:42 AM
Subject: [buildcheapeeg] Re: some issues

> 2. Well, Moritz brought up the name issue again. I think we really=20
> have to decide what to do about the term "eeg". Specifically, does=20
> a product need to be certified in order to bear the name "eeg"? We=20
> really need to find this out, or we will have to change the name.

I like the argument that it's an eeg machine (it is) but it isn't
a medical device. (as per thermometers, etc)

> 4. I feel there is a danger of taking too much of a long-term view=20
of=20
> things here. We are discussing certification, the possibility of=20
> getting sued, etc... important topics, but all these things are a=20
> long, long way off. I feel we should concentrate on finishing a=20
> workable system, getting some machines made for group members to=20
> test/play with, and then take things from there. I think it's safe=20
> to say that nobody in this group will sue the group!

While I feel we do need to look ahead, I agree that we need to
concentrate on getting a a working device. Using the "kit",=20
"experimental", "not for medical use", et al disclaimer it would
seem ok to follow in HAL's footsteps. How to help the hardware folks=20
accomplish this is the question.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't know if i'm correct, but to me it seems that =
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<DIV><BR></DIV><TT><BR><BR>&gt; 2. Well, Moritz brought up the name iss=
ue=20
again.&nbsp; I think we really <BR>&gt; have to decide what to do about=
the=20
term "eeg".&nbsp; Specifically, does <BR>&gt; a product need to be cert=
ified=20
in order to bear the name "eeg"?&nbsp; We <BR>&gt; really need to find =
this=20
out, or we will have to change the name.<BR><BR>I like the argument tha=
t=20
it's an eeg machine (it is) but it isn't<BR>a medical device. (as per=20
thermometers, etc)<BR><BR><BR>&gt; 4. I feel there is a danger of takin=
g too=20
much of a long-term view <BR>of <BR>&gt; things here.&nbsp; We are=20
discussing certification, the possibility of <BR>&gt; getting sued, etc=
...=20
important topics, but all these things are a <BR>&gt; long, long way=20
off.&nbsp; I feel we should concentrate on finishing a <BR>&gt; workabl=
e=20
system, getting some machines made for group members to <BR>&gt; test/p=
lay=20
with, and then take things from there.&nbsp; I think it's safe <BR>&gt;=
to=20
say that nobody in this group will sue the group!<BR><BR><BR>While I fe=
el we=20
do need to look ahead, I agree that we need to<BR>concentrate on gettin=
g a a=20
working device. Using the "kit", <BR>"experimental", "not for medical u=
se",=20
et al disclaimer it would<BR>seem ok to follow in HAL's footsteps. How =
to=20
help the hardware folks <BR>accomplish this is the=20
question.<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>To unsubscribe from this group, s=
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