Re: [buildcheapeeg] Re: modularEEG input stage prototype ... Some Ideas/Jim cont.

From: Jim Meissner (jpmeissner_at_mindspring.com)
Date: 2001-12-23 16:25:52


Dear Jim Peters:

> Also, there are much better ways of getting the data from the EEG to
> the computer via the sound card line-in than this, for instance using
> amplitude-modulation of a carrier.

Actually an FM modulated carrier is much less prone to noise and interference. I built a wireless EEG setup using a baseball cap with electrodes mounted on the sweatband and the amplifier and transmitter on the top of the head inside the cap. The power was 4 AA batteries. It was possible to do biofeedback listening to your brain on the FM stereo.

I am still unpacking from my move and I just found this toy. I could put the schematic on the web page if anyone is interested.

Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Peters
To: buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [buildcheapeeg] Re: modularEEG input stage prototype ... Some Ideas/Jim cont.

JimmyB_101 wrote:
> --- In buildcheapeeg_at_yahoogroups.com, Jim Peters <jim_at_uazu.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > What I'm finding so far is that what I want to do, e.g. shift a
> 256Hz
> > sampled signal up 8 octaves, has been implemented in theory many
> > times, but the detail makes these solutions completely inappropriate
> > for our particular application.
> >
> > (An 8-octave shift (256x) would map 0.2Hz to 51Hz, and 40Hz to
> 10kHz.
> > This seems a fairly good mapping of interesting brain-wave
> frequencies
> > to the audible range, although other shifts than 8-octave should
> also
> > be possible from the same code. I'd like to keep with whole
> octaves,
> > so that the frequencies have a clear relation to the original
> > frequencies, in case that matters).
> >
>
> for one thing, this would seem to bring the possibility of using
> a sound card for A>D back into the picture.

Actually, I was planning on running this on the host computer, not on
the EEG board. You'd need a fairly powerful processor to do this on
the board (206MHz StrongARM?), unless someone can find a *much* more
efficient algorithm.

Also, there are much better ways of getting the data from the EEG to
the computer via the sound card line-in than this, for instance using
amplitude-modulation of a carrier. Because of the nature of a
pitch-shifter, this isn't a nice simple operation, so there will
always be some level of compromise and error. For recording the data,
I would personally prefer a more direct and unprocessed input, such as
a serial, IRDA or USB connection, or an amplitude-modulated carrier to
the soundcard line-in.

Jim

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